This is an I-Heart podcast.

Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman and CEO of IHeart Media.

On this week's episode of Math and Magic, I'm sitting down with the one and only Bobby Bones.

We're exploring the power of audio.

Yeah, I don't fit into one specific hole.

I think that is what endeared me to listeners.

That's why I'm here now, because I

talked to people that grew up like me, have sensibilities like me, and have loyalties like me.

Listen to math and magic, stories from the frontiers of marketing on the Iheart radio app,

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It's that time.

Lock and load.

The Michael Vary Show is on the air.

There are cultural impediments to doing this work.

Let's say you work in the FBI.

You know that one of the two political parties is, let me put it nicely, white supremacist

adjacent at a minimum.

So there's a lot of people that are like, you know what?

Like, let's go find the safest white boy we can find.

Poor kids are just as bright and just as talent as white kids.

This election has proven, that this administration has proven painfully in some ways,

is that black people cannot save this country from white folks.

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