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Ron DeSantis got crossways with Trump, running against him.

And it really hurt him because I think he's a good governor.

Now, Byron Donald's is going to run against him.

Barron Donald's very popular.

He's very popular with MAGA.

And he's very, very good at projecting

a certain image. I hate that. I hate that because I'd like to see Byron Donald's in a position.

I'd like to see DeSantis continue as governor. I think he's done a good job as governor.

The thing he is criticized for that may cost him the governor's office, but I don't

think it will, is running against Trump. And I think if he was certain Trump was going to run,

people forget it wasn't certain that Trump was going to run. It was not a certainty. The

Democrats were trying to knock him out. And a lot of people told me Trump won't be

on the ballot. I said, I believe he will. The odds that Trump would be back in the White House as

president in January of 23, just after the midterms, I'll bet you those odds were less than 5%.

Oddsmakers would have that number, but I bet you they were less than 5%.

So Rod DeSantis ran. Okay. Well, I think he's done a good job as governor. And I don't think he would have run against Trump if he knew he was going to have to face off with Trump. I think he thought, I think his bet was, Trump won't be on the ballot, and that'll leave me.

And if Trump hadn't been on the ballot, we'd have rather had DeSantis than Nikki Haley.

Because she's awful.

She is absolutely awful.

So anyway, DeSantis has tried to kind of quietly, somewhat quietly,

continue on, just govern, go along.

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