Russell LaBar is our guest, Ringo's, Tex-Mex, Jimmy Changes, and so much more.

You were talking about building a culture and how proud you are of the people you have that have been with you, as many as 30.

It's from day one, literally from day one.

And that's unheard of in the hospitality industry.

You and I've had conversations about Johnny Caraba. I think one of the reasons Carabas is a special restaurant, a special company, is his ability to retain employees for their entire careers. You go to the Carabas on Voss, and there are multiple waiters there who have children who are also waiters there.

It's a career, not a job for a kid after they finish high school.

He keeps his people for a long time, and you do too.

And there's reasons for that.

You create a great workplace.

But I interrupted you.

I had to.

We're up against a break.

Go ahead and finish that one, if you would.

What was that saying?

Hell, I don't remember. We both have dementia.

You were talking about Heather, starting with you since she was 18.

You're talking about a culture and a business that will last beyond your time.

Oh, yes.

Yeah.

So I was talking about these chains that come and go, and there's so many of them. They start off

at a certain level of quality, and then they get taken over by private equity, and these

accountants start driving the brand, saying, look, if we just cut a little bit here, we'll

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