Pastor Ed Young is our guest, and pastor, as I mentioned, just a kind of signpost for folks.

If you can hold with me for a little longer, I'd first like to talk about some advice for parents and grandparents

who are involved in the rearing of their grandchildren about how you guide Christians to teach your child about Christmas,

from the Christian perspective, the life of Christ, the birth of Christ,

and not just the words you use and the lessons you use, but the actions you take.

Can you kind of give some proscriptive actual guidance there, please?

Yeah.

Well, you know, actually, in our modern world, we have resorted back to Freud.

We've resorted back to the progressives, and they tell us, you know, how to bring up your children. And we did that partially with my three

sons. I can tell you that. You know, we'd go buy the books by this author, by this individual. We would

use a spoon to discipline. And we're caught up in the secular human way of raising children. What I've

done, Michael, in the past over three months,

I went back and took the Bible, and I just took basic passages of how people would bring up

their children at biblical times, and I made it very relevant as to what we do in the area of

discipline, et cetera. And I asked my church one time,

I said, you know the Bible verse to spare the rod and spoil the child? And every hand went up.

I said, there's only one problem of that. That's not in the Bible. But we think it is. But it doesn't mean to use the rod in the Bible for your child.

It primarily doesn't mean we don't discipline.

We don't, I use the belt.

We use a lot of things with my boys, hopefully appropriate at age and situation.

But the word rod there in the Bible, and it talks about the rod, but not in that context,

is the standard of God's rules and regulations of how you bring up your children.

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