It's that time.

Lock and load.

Lock and load.

The Michael Vary Show is on the air. The Lord is with you.

Do not be afraid, Mary.

For you have found favor with God.

You will conceive in your womb and give birth to a son and you will call his name Jesus. Holy Night. The Stars are brightly shining.

Pastor Ed Young is our guest and Pastor, as I mentioned, just to kind of sign post for folks,

if you can hold with me for a little longer, I'd first like to talk about some advice for

parents and grandparents who are who are involved in the in the rearing of

their grandchildren about how you guide Christians to teach your child about Christmas

from the Christian perspective, the life of Christ, the birth of Christ, and not just the words you use and the lessons you use, but the actions you take.

Can you kind of give some proscriptive actual guidance there, please? Yeah. well you know actually in our modern world

we have resorted back to Freud we resorted back to Freud, we've resorted back to the progressives, and they tell us how to bring up your children.

And we did that partially with my three sons. I can tell you that. You know we go by the books by

this author, by this individual, we would use a spoon to discipline and we're

caught up in the secular human way of raising children.

What I've done, Michael, in the past, oh three months.

I went back and took the Bible, and I just took basic passages of how people would bring up their children in biblical times and I made it very relevant as to what we do in the area of discipline,

except, etc.

And I asked my church one time, I said,

you know the Bible verse to spare the rod

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