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3 Point Perspective: The Illustration Podcast

Am I Too Old to Get Started?

3 Point Perspective: The Illustration Podcast

SVSlearn.com

Visual Arts, Education, Arts, Business

4.8 • 834 Ratings

🗓️ 2 May 2018

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Many people wonder, is it too late? Or, am I too old to start?

Will, Lee, and Jake talk about this age old question and discuss how it isn’t too late. There are many successful creatives that didn’t start until they were older. Lee shares his story and how he didn’t start art until later on in life.

We talk about ways you can amp up and make the most of your early years if you are starting for the first time, or looking to accelerate your growth later in life. We discuss some of the benefits of age and the need for sacrifice and prioritizing to create a thriving career in art.

Links:

Svslearn.com, schoolism, CGMA

Sang Jun, https://www.sangjunart.com/

Lee White, https://www.leewhiteillustration.com/

Zombies video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngZ0K3lWKRc

Jon Klassen, http://jonklassen.tumblr.com/

Craig Mullins, http://www.goodbrush.com/

Design 100 Somethings, Youtube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxa01j9Ns7o

Uncovering Your Style, SVS, https://courses.svslearn.com/courses/uncovering-your-style

Yuko Shimizu, http://yukoart.com/

Jake Parker, http://mrjakeparker.com. Instagram: @jakeparker, Youtube: JakeParker44

Will Terry, http://willterry.com. Instagram: @willterryart, Youtube: WillTerryArt

Lee White, http://leewhiteillustration.com. Instagram: @leewhiteillo

http://forum.svslearn.com

Podcast production and editing by Aaron Dowd.

Show notes by Tanner Garlick.


Am I Too Old to Get Started?

Am I too old to shift careers? Am I too old to start as an artist? Am I too old to start this big project I’ve always wanted to start working on?

What’s the average age to start working? If you grew up with an interest in art, drew all the time, and went to art school then most people start their art career maybe in their mid-twenties. Often people who get to art a little later in the game wonder, “Am I too old to do this?” Young people think, “When am I going to get that job?”

Regardless of your age, you are probably comparing yourself to people older and younger than you, and wishing you had done something different when you were younger or feeling like you are so far behind.

Examples of Successful Late Starters

Sang Jun. https://www.sangjunart.com/

Didn’t start drawing until he was well into his twenties. Realized he loved drawing, and started practicing, went to art school, ended up getting a job at Lucas Film doing character design for Episode 3, and then became a lead character designer at Blue Sky. You don’t have to start in your late teens to make it.

Lee White. https://www.leewhiteillustration.com/

Didn’t draw in twenties, or teens. Wasn’t interested until he was in his thirties and started drawing. Applied to Art Center of Design and got accepted with a scholarship, moved to LA, and graduated when he was 33. Then started getting his first books when he was in his mid-thirties, and that’s not the end, it’s just an on going thing.

Miyazaki, the Walt Disney of Japan, in animation all throughout career until 40. That’s when he decided to start his own animation studio. He did a graphic novel at age 40 for Nausica that he wanted to make into a feature film, all of his great movies were done in his post 40’s.

At age 40, you still have 25 years till most people retire, that’s a long time!

You really don’t ever have to retire.

Art isn’t like playing football, it’s not hard on your bones.

Zombies video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngZ0K3lWKRc

As You Mature, Your Art Matures

Greg Manchess was winning awards and competitions for years, and he came out to do a lecture, he had just done the cover for “Above the Timberline.“ Speaking of that painting he said, “10 years ago I could not have painted this” even though 10 years ago he was winning awards for the Society of Illustrators, etc.

If you really are serious about being an artist and creating the best art you are capable of creating, you have to make it a lifelong goal. It’s not a sprint.

You need a schedule for yourself. You need to have an actual goal, something to look forward to. Without it, nothing happens.

Don’t judge results by if you are right on target.

Say, you’re 35. 5 years will pass whether you like it or not. You’re gonna be 40 at some point. Wouldn’t you rather have done something interesting with those 5 years between 35 and 40, or and tried to do this thing? If time passes anyways, you might as well do it.

If you are starting later, you won’t be creating the same work that you would if you had started younger. You have had so many life experiences: losing jobs, family, work, etc.

Beauty of age, experience, which leads to more informed art.

If you’re older, you’ve figured out how to work and developed a good work ethic. You don’t quit until the job is done. Broader perspective, more interested in learning than instant gratification.

Gina Jane was a student going back to school. She turned in some of the best projects in the class, she had done a lot of graphic design stuff but hadn’t been drawing for a while. However, she had the work ethic, and she worked so hard at applying what she was being taught. She easily turned in some of the best pieces in the class.

You can accelerate your learning with your experiences. Older students are more okay learning something without instant gratification.

i.e. learning perspective, having a more broad perspective and being more willing to learn.

Battle Plan

For someone starting at, let’s say, 35-36..

Phase 1 or Year 1: Get good at it

  • Draw for 2 hours a day. Enroll in an online school, SVSlearn,
    schoolism, CGMA.

  • Learn the Fundamentals: Perspective,  Light and Shadow, Figure Drawing, Composition, Color, how to use Line/shape/tone

  • Fill 6-7 100 page sketchbooks, during your 2 hours a day. Work on hands, head, the figure, landscape, perspective, shading, this is your your sandbox for practicing and applying what you are learning.

  • Pick 5 of your favorite artist, do 20 copies from
    each of these 5 artists.
    Each copy, you will learn so much from
    trying to deconstruct what these artists have done. You want to learn
    how that artist did it. You’re gonna fail with some of them, but you
    try and learn from the masters by copying their work.
    Depending on what your goal is, it might change your approach.
    Jon Klassen. Does a lot more simple graphic design type work.
    http://jonklassen.tumblr.com/
    Craig Mullins. Studied industrial design. He didn’t like the industrial design look. Then he went back
    to school and did illustration. http://www.goodbrush.com/

  • Seek advice
    from a professional: "these are my goals, what should I do?" Sometimes students want to become a children’s book illustrator but
    don’t really know any illustrators.
    During this first year, you need
    to educate yourself on this field.
    If it’s children’s books, every
    week maybe read 5 a week.
    If it’s comics, know what’s in comics, not
    just 20 years ago, but what is happening now.

  • Fill your creative bank
    account with what people in the industry are doing.

  • State your goal
    publicly: and then share your progress on the social media platform.


That’s your Phase 1/ Year 1, it might take 2-3 years.

Phase 2: Build Your Portfolio

  • Draw 4 hours a day

  • Intermediate classes, these online schools, and svs have more advanced classes. More one on one with teachers.

  • 4 sketchbooks this year, not studies, concept art for portfolio.
    Illustrator: ideas for illustrations or childrens books
    Comic artist: ideas for characters, your take on Wolverine, etc.

  • Complete the Draw 100 Somethings Challenge: boats, trees, flowers, gummy robots, dinosaurs, robots, etc. Teaches you to not be satisfied with first 2-3, or 20 designs. Teaches you that true creativity comes after you have drained all the low hanging fruit. Jake did 200. Just to prove that there is no end to the ideas you can do.

  • 100 Somethings, Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxa01j9Ns7o

  • Continue Studying. If you’re aspiring to do childrens books- keep studying children’s books. concept artist or animator-reading every word in the “Art Of” books. Comics, keep studying comic books.

  • Social Media- post your 100 somethings. Post your sketchbook studies. Can start growing a following, cause you aren’t just practicing but sharing your own unique ideas and what you are bringing to this field you are entering.

  • Choose your heroes. Educate yourself on what you want to do. i.e. children’s books, comics, animation.

  • Post regularly, share your work, journal chart progress, share what you’re learning.

  • Keep Studying

  • Start to pay attention to stories. At the end of the day this is what will separate you. See what the story is about, not just the details, separate that.
    Eventually everyone will be able to draw and paint, and story is what will separate you.
    Ultimately, Star Wars is all about a family. It’s a family drama, that’s what it is about. Be able to see the

Transcript

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0:00.0

All right. Hello, everybody, and welcome to Three Point Perspective, the podcast about illustration, how to do it, how to make a living at it, and how to make an impact in the world with your art. I'm Jake Parker.

0:15.0

And I'm Lee White. And I'm Will Terry. All three of us are professional illustrators. And for the past 25 years, we've all worked with all the major publishers and publications in the business. We've published over 50 books, and all of us have taught at universities. Each week, we tackle a subject related to illustration from three perspectives. Sometimes we agree. Most of the time we argue, but every time you learn something new.

0:40.5

All right. Good intro, guys. Okay, today we are talking about, are you too old to shift your career

0:47.8

from whatever it is you're doing into art? Are you too old to start being an artist? Are you too old to start that big

0:55.8

project that you've always wanted to work on? So that's the subject. And I want to ask you guys,

1:02.9

what is the average age, would you say, most professionals start working? Like when they actually

1:10.6

start getting work? Is that your... Yeah when they actually start getting work?

1:11.5

Is that your...

1:12.6

Yeah, when they start getting work, what's the norm?

1:14.9

I'd say 23.

1:16.0

23 to 25 is kind of where I see the general average.

1:21.3

What do you think, Will?

1:23.1

That's a hard question.

1:25.5

Because I've known people that are definitely older.

1:28.3

And I've also known a lot of people that they'll graduate college and then they'll go get a job that's related to illustration, doing something like working as a graphic designer, maybe, or maybe they're like, I know one guy who actually like painted little little figurines

1:47.7

for for years before he really started his illustration career so I think a lot if if you're

1:52.2

talking about job or free I think you're talking about freelance right I'm talking about freelance or I'm

1:56.6

talking about freelance or if if you want to become an animator getting a job in an animation studio if you want to become an animator, getting a job in an animation

2:01.7

studio, if you want to be a comic book artist, getting a job, drawing comics, illustrator,

2:06.5

like getting your first children's book illustration job.

2:09.5

Like for the bell curve, I know there's people on the edges who, you know, some person out there

2:15.1

who's 17 getting work, right?

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