Summary
Scottish writer and broadcaster Alistair Heather is not proud of some of his past interactions with women. In a previous job as a builder’s labourer, he would watch and laugh as co-workers wolf-whistled and cat-called passing women. In the street, on trains, in cafes, bars and other public places, he would see it as his right to approach and talk to women. He knows that in behaving like that he has contributed to women and girls feeling excluded and unsafe. Now he wants to find out what he should be doing to help change the culture for the better. Alistair discusses ‘locker room talk’ with former Aston Villa youth player and Dundee United Hall of Famer Seán Dillon, challenges an old friend and explores Police Scotland’s much-praised campaign which urged men to address their attitudes to women with a hard-hitting viral video telling them: “sexual violence begins long before you think it does. Don’t be that guy". Producer Dave Howard Researcher Carys Wall Sound design Joel Cox
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| 0:00.0 | This was an impregnable fortress. The only way you get out was in a wooden box. |
| 0:05.0 | The controversial maximum security prison impossible to escape from. |
| 0:09.0 | And one of the duties of a political prisoner is the escape. |
| 0:12.0 | The IRA inmates who found a way. of a political prisoner is the escape. |
| 0:12.5 | The IRA inmates who found a way. |
| 0:14.5 | I'm Carlo Gableer and I'll be navigating a path |
| 0:19.5 | through the disturbing inside story of the biggest jailbreak in British and Irish history. |
| 0:25.0 | The narrative that they want is that this is a big achievement by them. |
| 0:28.5 | Escape from the maze, listen first on BBC Sounds. |
| 0:35.0 | BBC Sounds. BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts. |
| 0:39.0 | Welcome to Seriously from BBC Radio 4. |
| 0:43.0 | I'm Vanessa Kasule. |
| 0:45.0 | Radio 4 is home to the world's best audio documentaries, |
| 0:48.0 | and each week you'll find two hand-picked programs in this feed. Here's a little something to expand your mind. |
| 0:58.3 | Karen McLean, Stacy Nell, Smet to Mystery. |
| 1:04.0 | Every year now for the last seven years, |
| 1:07.0 | Labor MP Jess Phillips has stood up in the House of Commons |
| 1:10.0 | to read out the names of women killed by UK men in the previous 12 months. |
| 1:14.8 | Simone Ambler, Emma MacArthur, |
| 1:19.2 | Sherry Theresa Milnes. |
| 1:22.2 | This year the list provided by the Counting Dead Women Project took nearly six minutes to read |
| 1:28.3 | And finally to mention Joe Mergerarae, his body was dumped and set on fire in a lay by last August, |
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