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The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press

Alternative History: What if Mitch McConnell voted to convict Trump?

The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press

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🗓️ 19 December 2023

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Former Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.) joins Chuck to game out what could have happened in a world where Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell voted to convict former President Trump in his second impeachment trial relating to the insurrection.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello from Washington, I'm Chuck Todd, cast. So we are back with another edition of our annual

0:12.0

tradition of what ifs and alternative histories.

0:14.8

Today we're going to tackle one of the most consequential moments in recent political history.

0:19.2

It's a moment that I think we'll be debating for years, maybe for this entire century, depending on what happens

0:24.1

in the 2024 election.

0:25.9

What if Mitch McConnell had voted to convict Donald Trump during the second impeachment?

0:30.6

You'll remember, after the January 6thth riot Democrats impeached the former president

0:33.7

for inciting an insurrection. The impeachment trial didn't play out until after Trump

0:37.5

left office and that gave cover for some senators including Mitch McConnell to acquit

0:41.0

Trump and let the process play out by the legal system.

0:45.0

Let me read an excerpt from McConnell's famous floor speech that day when he decided not to convict.

0:53.8

Here's what he said.

0:54.5

If President Trump were still in office,

0:56.1

I would have carefully considered whether the House managers

0:58.4

prove their specific charge.

1:00.5

By the strict criminal standard, the President's speech probably was not incitement.

1:04.1

However in the context of impeachment the Senate might have decided this was

1:07.7

acceptable shorthand for the reckless actions that preceded the riot.

1:11.5

But in this case that question is moot because

1:14.2

former President Trump is constitutionally not eligible for conviction. There is no doubt

1:18.4

this is a very close question. Donald Trump was president when the House voted,

1:21.5

though not when the House chose to deliver the papers.

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