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The Bottom Line

Alternative Finance

The Bottom Line

BBC

Personal Journals, Business, Society & Culture

4.6615 Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2013

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

The view from the top of business. Presented by Evan Davis, The Bottom Line cuts through confusion and spin to present a clearer view of the business world through discussion with people running leading and emerging companies. This week, Evan meets three pioneers of alternative finance and asks - can they beat the banks at their own game? Giles Andrews is CEO of Zopa, the peer to peer lending website; Anil Stocker is co-founder of Market Invoice , an online finance provider that allows companies to turn invoices into working capital; and Michael Joseph is director of mobile money at Vodafone and former CEO of the Kenyan mobile phone provider Safaricom, where he launched the revolutionary mobile money transfer service, M-Pesa.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Thank you for downloading this program from BBC Radio 4. You're about to hear Evan Davis meet three business leaders who've taken on the banks. It's the bottom line.

0:11.1

Hello and welcome to the program. Now, if you like that old phrase, don't get mad, get even, you'll like my guests today.

0:18.9

They're all running businesses that are taking on the banks.

0:22.4

They're offering old-style financial services in completely new ways.

0:26.9

In that sense, they're pioneers of alternative finance.

0:30.7

So can they beat the banks at their own game?

0:33.7

Well, welcome to the three of you, each of you in a different niche, I should say,

0:38.0

and we best start by explaining what it is you each do.

0:41.7

First, returning to the programme is Giles Andrews, Chief Executive of Zopa,

0:46.2

a peer-to-peer lending and borrowing marketplace, Giles.

0:49.9

So just talk us through the customer experience.

0:52.3

Well, there's experiences that very ordinary people lend money to other people. And by doing it directly, if you like, on our platform and avoiding banks, then they get a better deal, simple as that. Right. So I go to your website. Indeed. And what happens? You would register as either a lender or a borrower. If we look at the borrower side of the journey first, a borrower will give us permission to access data on them and give us some data of their own. So they'll fill in a form

1:15.0

that's a bit like a bank application form. And a combination of the data we buy from Credit Bureau

1:20.2

and the data they put on their application allows us to score them with a unique proprietary

1:24.4

score, which allows us to assess their level of riskiness.

1:44.3

Right. So I want to borrow, say, £2,000 for some home improvement of one kind or another. That would be a fairly typical loan. Okay. I go to your website. I've got my credit score done. What happens on the other side then? So you would ask for a quote, and you'd put in how much money you wanted to borrow for how long. And we would then match you with a whole load of other people who, in advance of that,

1:48.5

had agreed the terms under which they would be prepared to lend.

1:51.6

So they've picked the kind of risk levels they want to take and the length of time they want to tie up their money.

1:56.7

And they'll lend very small amounts of money.

1:58.7

So our average lender is lending about £5,000,

2:01.5

but lending it in £10 units to 500 different people.

2:04.8

And we do that to spread their risk.

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