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Andrew, how you doing? I'm well, you know. The sun is out in Seattle. It is, it is out in Seattle.

It's kind of incredible. It's like, what is this orb? Anyway, I have a question for you. What band?

Or I guess who do you think created the loudest, most face meltingest PA speaker system of all time?

Okay, okay, I like this game. I am going to go with Metallica. I would have gone that direction too,

like I would have been like Aussie or maybe even like tool or something, but no, it's the

Grateful Dead, which kind of cracks me up. And Andrew, I do not want you to ask me what I think

of the Grateful Dead because I'm not going to answer that because I know that taking a stance on

the Grateful Dead is one of the quickest ways to poke the internet bear. So the Grateful Dead,

they're both loud and polarizing. I didn't see that coming. You know, I have a few dead head

friends in my life. Personally, I've never gotten quite that into them, but maybe I'll give them

a listen on my way home today. Yeah, I'll that well. I bring up music because I was thinking about

how I listened to music these days. And it's different from how it was when I was 19 years old.

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