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Alpha Leak | The Bull Case for zkBTC

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4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 18 November 2022

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, David is joined by John Light of Sovryn and Eric Wall, who moonlights David on the Bitcoin technical details throughout the interview.

The three go over the bull case for ZK-Rollups on Bitcoin. It’s undoubtedly the frontier.

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Topics Covered

0:00 Intro
5:10 John’s Background
8:24 How zkBTC Works?
11:00 Eric’s Interest
15:43 A Better Lightning Network?
21:33 Rollups on ETH vs. Lightning Network
25:50 Rollup Potential
29:24 Optimism
32:15 Expressivity
43:53 Limitless Bitcoin Applications
46:29 Layer 3 Protocols
50:25 What Needs to Happen
52:05 Forks & Flippening Effects
58:00 Proof Systems & Recursive Covenants
1:09:40 Next Steps
1:12:00 Research
1:14:12 Eric’s Thoughts on Bitcoin
1:16:50 Closing & Disclaimers

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Resources:

John Light
https://twitter.com/lightcoin 

Eric Wall
https://twitter.com/ercwl 

Validity Rollups on Bitcoin
https://bitcoinrollups.org/ 

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0:00.0

Today on this AlphaLeak episode, we are exploring ZK Roll-ups on Bitcoin, which I didn't even

0:07.2

know was possible until I stumbled upon this website called BitcoinRoll-ups.org, which

0:12.5

is a research endeavor out of this man, John Light, who got a grant to go research what

0:16.8

can you do when you put a roll-up on Bitcoin, is that even possible?

0:20.7

And so it turns out a lot is possible.

0:23.5

Also in this episode, I bring on Eric Wall, who's also a Bitcoin or a technical Bitcoin

0:27.5

owner to help me co-moderate this conversation, because this is something that Eric Wall

0:31.2

I know is just very interested in and wants to see happen on Bitcoin.

0:35.2

So we talk about roll-ups on Bitcoin, of course.

0:37.8

What that means for the Lightning Network, what you can do on a roll-up on Bitcoin, is

0:42.6

it just a payments network that is a better Lightning network, or is it the full suite

0:46.6

of smart contracts, tokens, what's it take to put roll-ups on Bitcoin?

0:51.4

Do we have to hard fork?

0:52.4

Is it just a soft fork?

0:53.4

How complex is this?

0:55.4

How is the community going to receive this?

0:56.9

Because the Bitcoin community is generally resistant to change.

0:59.6

But we've kind of been seeing a tide shift in the Bitcoin community lately.

1:03.2

Maybe there's more Bitcoiners that are more interested in something like roll-ups on Bitcoin.

1:07.2

And overall, I'm just really fascinated about this concept, roll-ups on Bitcoin.

1:11.6

And it's kind of restored my interest in Bitcoin.

1:14.1

It's one of the most innovative things I've seen out of the Bitcoin space in a really

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