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We Can Do Hard Things

ALOK: How do we interrupt trauma? How do we heal?

We Can Do Hard Things

Glennon Doyle & Audacy

Society & Culture, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

4.841.1K Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2022

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

1. How do we make a new thing with our life? 2. What is your fingerprint on the world? 3. Who does history try to erase and why? 4. What does pain do to our bodies? 5 .What is our capacity for transformation? About ALOK: ALOK (they/them) is an internationally acclaimed writer, performer, and public speaker. As a mixed-media artist their work explores themes of trauma, belonging, and the human condition. They are the author of Femme in Public (2017), Beyond the Gender Binary (2020), and Your Wound/My Garden (2021). They are the creator of #DeGenderFashion: a movement to degender fashion and beauty industries and have been honored as one of HuffPo’s Culture Shifters, NBC’s Pride 50, and Business Insider’s Doers. Instagram: @alokvmenon To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome back to We Can Do Hard Things. I am so excited to jump right in with my new friend,

0:19.2

who has been my secret friend for a very long time, but we have never met in person before

0:22.9

this joyful, joyful conversation that we've been able to have. The poet, the beautiful

0:34.4

aloak, please go back and listen to Tuesday's episode if you have not yet. You're not going

0:38.3

to want to miss that one. Sister, let's just jump right in and talk to, I think you had

0:43.6

some things you want to talk to aloak about this morning.

0:46.6

Aloak on Tuesday's episode talked so much about the pain of the feminist movement, not understanding

0:55.4

how our liberation is tied to the trans movement, how it's all the same. And I was, I mean,

1:04.7

you know, I know you're from Texas and especially with the attacks on reproductive justice

1:11.2

in Texas and what's at the Supreme Court. I would love for us to talk a little bit about

1:18.6

how my fight for bodily autonomy as a cis straight woman is inextricably linked to your

1:26.7

fight for bodily autonomy and how, you know, there's the obvious link in that abortion

1:31.9

is also a trans issue, of course, and that, you know, the power to make our personal medical

1:36.6

decisions, but there's also this pervasive paradigm defining womanhood according to reproductive

1:45.0

function. So, so the justification that a trans woman can't function as a woman because

1:50.4

she lacks the essential reproductive capacity is the same justification that looks at me

1:56.9

and says, because my essential function as a woman is my reproductive capacity, the state

2:02.6

has an interest in regulating it. And I think that can we just talk a little bit about how

2:07.9

the intersection of gender freedom and reproductive justice and how this is all the same bag of tricks.

2:16.3

Yes. And before answering, I just want to say I see the gender studies major in you and

2:21.5

it makes me so excited. This is the way to speak. The gender study major in me sees and

2:29.0

honors the gender study major in you. Like truly, you are my people. Like that's exactly

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