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The Dispatch Podcast

Almost Inevitable

The Dispatch Podcast

The Dispatch

News, Politics

4.63.3K Ratings

🗓️ 8 January 2021

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Wednesday’s storming of the Capitol should not have come as a surprise to anyone who has paid attention to Donald Trump’s election-related conspiracy-mongering in the weeks since November 3. Politico’s chief political correspondent Tim Alberta has been interacting with Trump supporters for months now and joins today’s show to explain why Wednesday’s Capitol siege was almost inevitable: “What we saw at every step of the way was a coordinated and deliberate campaign” by the president, high ranking Republicans, and far-right media personalities “to deceive the American public,” Alberta tells Sarah and Steve. Show Notes: -“Jan. 6 Was 9 Weeks — And 4 Years — in the Making” by Tim Alberta in Politico. -American Carnage: On the Front Lines of the Republican Civil War and the Rise of President Trump by Tim Alberta. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to our Friday dispatch podcast. I'm your host Sarah Isger joined by Steve Hayes

0:05.6

and Politico's Tim Alberta this week. Tim is the chief political correspondent for Politico.

0:11.9

He writes a lot of long forms for the publications magazine and his beat, the Trump presidency,

0:17.7

the Republican party, and really, I mean, just everything that we need to talk about today.

0:23.8

So without further ado, Tim Alberta.

0:37.8

Let's dive right in. Tim, just so thrilled to have you joining us today. You just had this

0:46.7

incredible piece that you wrote for Politico. And look, I love all of your pieces in Politico

0:51.3

and I always find them really informative. The reporting from the ground is, I mean, there's

0:57.6

no parallel to it out there right now. But this piece was more personal. It felt more emotional.

1:04.0

It felt I felt that you were writing this from a different place than a lot of your other

1:09.2

pieces. And you know, I want you to summarize it. But there's a point at which you talked

1:18.7

about how plenty of the people who stormed the US Capitol complex on Wednesday really,

1:23.4

truly believed that Trump had been cheated out of four more years. The vice president

1:27.9

Mike Pence, a Udallateral power to revise the election results that their takeover of the

1:32.1

building could change the course of history. I know this because I know several people

1:36.2

who were there and several more who plan to go. They bear responsibility for their actions,

1:40.2

of course, but the point remains. They were conned into coming to DC in the first place,

1:45.1

not just by Trump with his compulsive lying, but by the legions of Republicans who refused

1:49.3

to counter those lives, believing it couldn't hurt to humor the president and stoke the fires

1:54.3

of his base. That, to me, is the paragraph that summarizes January 6th.

2:01.2

Yeah, Sarah. And you know, you're right with what you said at the outset. I'm just, I'm

2:07.6

angry. And I think a lot of people are angry. And I'm angry for a lot of reasons. But,

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