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This has been in Ashley I, almost famous in depth. It's a rainy day. We're up in Napa Valley.

Ashley and I are together having a glass of wine. This is my first glass of wine in a week.

Really? You know why? I want to die it. I know I am too. So I've been trying to be better,

but like I've gone three days without it. So I'm drinking a glass of wine. We'll see what this

takes me. This could get weird for me today. But we're here with one of our favorite people, Amanda

Stan. Amanda Stan was on Ben Higgins' season of the bachelor. He begins his.

She's also appeared on Paradise. I had a couple of relationships that we'll talk about during

the podcast. A lot of lessons learned. A lot of amazing accomplishments along the way. But I

want to set the mood right now. We're having a glass of wine. We're sitting at a cross from

each other at a beautiful table and a beautiful resort with a fire going and it's raining outside.

So if I start snoring, because I'm pretty relaxed. I feel like Ben's like doing a fire side

chat right now. It's kind of it's a fire side chat. Amanda, welcome to the podcast.

Thanks for having me. Can I ask her a little warm up question?

I would love you too. Since we are in Napa, I mean, our drinking wine. What is your wine of choice?

So right now we're drinking Shardine. It's a big white wine person. You are. But I've been

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