Hello my friends.

friends welcome to another episode of follow him.

My name is Hank Smith. I'm your host. I'm here with my planted and rooted co-host and

our wonderful guest Dr. S Michael Wilcox.

John let's start with you. This is Alma 32 through 35.

Alma's with the Zoramites. I know this is one of your favorite blocks of scripture. Tell me what you're looking forward to.

I did a lot of weeding as a teenager. My dad thought that should be part of my training and I feel like I probably learned more about these agricultural parables working in a garden than just reading about them and thinking about them. So I'm excited to see how the

ground, the seed, the season, the supper all work together here. We have our guest here John. He's been with us before Dr.

S Michael Wilcox. Mike, what are we going to do today? How do you want to lay this out?

I love these chapters. I'm a 32

is one of those chapters where are you laying in the scale against all the

anti Book of Mormon things you want to lay in and it's going to weigh down.

You just don't write something like this without being a prophet.

It has a prophetic stamp on it, or just a profoundly prophetic stamp on it or just a profoundly prophetic stamp and it addresses

something that's very very relevant to us all how do you gain and maintain faith?

John likes the agricultural sense of it and you can key off some other words in Amma 32 and use a whole different image.

You can key off the word experiment and now I'm in the world of

modern scientific research and it's amazing for people to say look I can give you

a scientific formula how to learn spiritual truth.

If you're in that chemistry, physics, biology, reason, world, alms for you. You can key off the word exercise and now you're in the Olympics and sports or you can key off the word tree and agriculture so you've got a lot of

metaphors to do here and then Amulak is going to help us understand two words I

love in terms of the Savior, his Redemption, his

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