Hey, everybody, a heads up the conversation that you're about to hear was recorded in May of

this year. That's before the Supreme Court overturned Roe v Wade. I'm on vacation as you're

listening to this during the first week of August 2022. We thought it'd be good to re-share

this episode as the points about conservative interpretation of rights, abortion rights law,

and the structure of the Supreme Court are still extremely timely. Be sure to let us know what's

on your mind since the Dobbs decision. First, labor is already unconstitutional

and what is forced birth other than forcing a woman to labor against her well because allegedly

the state has an interest in that. Guess what, folks? Just because the state thinks it's important

doesn't mean that they can force you to do the work for the state without pay against your well.

The state might say it is very important that somebody picked this concept.

But you know what? They can't force me to do it. They have to find a willing person to pick

that cotton. Can't make me do it. That's the 13th amendment. Same thing should apply to abortion

rights. Hello, welcome to Wise This Happening with me, your host Chris Hayes.

Well, I think for most Americans and maybe not the majority of listeners to this podcast,

but most people and even honestly, like pretty news junky news consumer folks,

just don't spend a lot of time in their life thinking about the Supreme Court or the courts more

broadly. It's not a front of mind news concern. Obviously, people that are legal practitioners or

law nerds or even Supreme court nerds who are really obsessed with it. I should speak

full disclosure that my wife is one of those people. She clerks for Justice John Paul Stevens

and now is a law professor and is co-host of a podcast called Strix scrutiny with Melissa

Murray and Lee Ellipman where they talk about the Supreme Court and the culture around the court.

By the way, it's great. You should check it out. The broader world is like, the Supreme Court

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