Welcome to Nobody Told Me. I'm Laura Owens and I'm Jan Black. When you feel inspired, you feel great, right? You might feel like you can do anything, but in the midst of the

coronavirus pandemic, you may find it hard to feel inspired. That's why we invited Allison Holzer

back to the show. Allison has spent the past few years studying the science of inspiration

to understand how it can be summoned through different actions. Allison is a consultant, entrepreneur, and coach who is the co-founder of InspireCore and previously

was director of coaching for the Yale Center for Emotional Intelligence.

Allison is also the co-author of the book, Dare to Inspire, Sustain the Fire of Inspiration in

Work and life.

Alison, thank you so much for coming back on with us.

Thank you so much for having me. It's great to be here.

You posted a blog recently in which you wrote,

when I think about all that people are struggling with right now,

many emotions come to mind, but inspiration is not at the top of the list. Yet it's

times like these when we need it most. Explain more about your observations with regard to what's

going on right now. Yeah. So first of all, I would say that I think we're all experiencing

so many different emotions every day.

And it's completely natural to be experiencing all different kinds of emotions,

many, many difficult ones, right?

We're facing so much uncertainty.

And so people are feeling, you know, anxious about what's going to happen they don't know

what the future brings and and those are normal experiences and emotions to have but when I said this

I think what I was getting to is this idea that inspiration is both an emotion that can also be also be in a mindset. And so, you know,

while we're feeling all these different emotions, maybe the emotion of inspiration is not the,

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