Allies

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🗓️ 17 May 2022

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Bryce Klehm is an associate editor at Lawfare. Max Johnston is a creative producer at Goat Rodeo. Together, they are the creators of Lawfare and Goat Rodeo’s newest podcast series, Allies, which launched on Monday and covers the history of the Special Immigrant Visa Program in Afghanistan. It's an amazing story. It covers a lot of time, a lot of action and a lot of people, all through the lens of the efforts—legislative and administrative—to get visas for Afghan translators to come to the United States to protect them from Taliban retaliation. Benjamin Wittes sat down with Bryce and Max to talk about the creation of the podcast, and how you take a wonky visa program and turn it into drama. Following the conversation, we’re bringing you the entirety of Episode One of Allies.

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1:25.6	You know, immigration policy can't offer. It's an opportunity for people who've worked
1:29.8	with us abroad to accomplish goals and this is an opportunity for them to come to the
1:34.6	US and sort of further that goal. But of course in practice it works very differently.
1:39.4	So I think it's about taking these big goals and ambitions in the policy and sort of in
1:44.6	the bureaucracy and seeing how we actually sort of shape up to that in practice.
1:50.8	I'm Benjamin Widis and this is the LawFair podcast May 17th, 2022.
1:57.4	Bryce Klam is an associate editor at LawFair. Max Johnston is a creative producer at Goat
2:05.1	Roadio. Together they are the creators of LawFair and Goat Roadio's newest podcast series
2:12.8	Allies which launched yesterday and covers the history of the special immigrant visa program
2:20.9	in Afghanistan. It's an amazing story. It covers a lot of time, a lot of action, a lot of
2:28.5	people all through the lens of the effort, legislative and administrative to get Afghan translators
2:37.1	visas to come to the United States to protect them from Taliban retaliation. They joined me
2:44.8	in Goat Roadio Studios to talk about the creation of the podcast, how you take a wonky visa
2:52.6	program and turn it into drama and we bring you in full episode one of Allies. It's the
3:01.5	LawFair podcast May 17th Allies. So this is the first podcast series we have ever done
3:13.3	that I have been this distantly involved with which is to say I was in some sense the editorial
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