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Hey there, folks. Welcome. I am on the TBN set here at the N.R.B. The National Religious Broadcaster's Convention in Nashville, Tennessee. I have as my guest right now a friend,

Pastor Alan Jackson. Pastor Alan Jackson, welcome. It's see i have as my guest right now a friend pastor alan jackson pastor alan jackson welcome it's good to be with you again i've been on your podcast a bunch of times you've been on this program

a bunch of times but i'm in your neck of the woods now i'm in i'm in nashville your church

world uh outreach is in murfboro. How far are we from

Murphysboro here? About 30 minutes. All right. I know I'm coming back here at the end

of April for a conference. Should we start talking about that? Sure. I had forgotten. I've got so

much going on and I realized I get to come back and I get to hang out with you. We're doing a conference on culture and Christianity. You're going to be there, Ali Stucky, Brandon Tatum, Kurt Cameron. It's really a whole host of people. And we're really trying to help a bit of a younger group than we typically watch TBN, try to understand how to engage our culture with their faith. And so we thought your voice

was a perfect part of that. On the oldest young guy they could get. It's kind of a, it's a wonderful

thing when people talk about culture and Christianity, because it's funny, you know, when people

ask me what has God called me to, it's to the culture, right? I mean, I talk politics, I talk theology, but the culture, right? That's where the gospel is supposed to go. I mean, you remember in the 90s that, you know, these t-shirts that said it's the economy stupid, you know, like I would be, I would have a t-shirt that said, is the culture stupid? It's the culture. We've got to be speaking into the culture. So let's talk about that. What does it

mean to speak into the culture as Christians? Well, I think for those that have a voice in the

Christian community, first we've got to climb over this, I believe, completely illegitimate

barrier that we shouldn't talk about culture. They say we're being political. It's not political

to talk about what's happening in the world around us. It's called being biblical. And so I'm not advocating

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