All The President's Lawyers

Civics 101

NHPR

Society & Culture, Government, History

4.6 • 2.4K Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Have you ever wondered with the White House counsel does? Who it is? Whether that person is the president’s personal lawyer…or something else? And what about the Justice Department? Where do all those legal types fit in? Our guest is political science professor Nancy Kassop. She’s an expert on many things, but her extensive experience interviewing White House counsels helped us dig deep on this topic. We also dive into the legal norms and traditions that are being strained under the Trump administration. Civics 101 is hosted by Hannah McCarty and Nick Capodice. Christina Phillips produced and anchored this episode. CLICK HERE: Visit our website to see all of our episodes, donate to the podcast, sign up for our newsletter, get free educational materials, and more! To see Civics 101 in book form, check out A User's Guide to Democracy: How America Works by Hannah McCarthy and Nick Capodice, featuring illustrations by Tom Toro. Check out our other weekly NHPR podcast, Outside/In - we think you'll love it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello, everyone. We are in a new administration, which means we at Civics 101 are not getting a whole heck of a lot of sleep.
0:07.1	So I'll make this quick. It is our winter fundraiser. We have one item on offer this year. And it's my favorite so far.
0:14.7	It is a large, robust, beautiful black Civics 101 coffee mug that says,
0:22.2	Democracy is my cup of tea.
0:24.8	Because it sure is mine, even if this cup will probably only hold coffee.
0:29.4	The mug will be yours for a one-time $60 gift or $5 a month.
0:35.0	Click the link in the show notes to check it out.
0:37.1	We are so grateful for your support.
0:40.1	Like, really, really.
0:43.3	I'm just going to go ahead and get started.
0:45.0	Sounds great, Christina.
0:50.3	Hi, hello.
0:52.2	Are you ready to do this?
0:53.5	I'm ready.
0:55.4	Born ready, Phillips. All right. Are you ready to do this? I'm ready. Born ready, Phillips.
1:01.2	All right. You are listening to Civics 101. I'm Christina Phillips. And today I have dragged you,
1:06.8	our host, Hannah McCarthy and Nick Cabelleeche, into the studio to talk about the most powerful lawyers.
1:12.8	We're going to start by talking about the White House Council, also known as the president's in-house go-to advisor for, can I do this, should I do this, and how can I do this?
1:19.9	All right.
1:20.4	Sounds good.
1:21.0	Yep.
1:21.6	And later, we're going to talk about the Justice Department and the relationship between
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