I'm Claire Fallon and I'm Emma Gray and this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed

recap podcast about reality dating shows like The Bachelor and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry, and curse the patriarchy.

We can't live with these shows and we can't live without them, but we can break down every juicy moment and unpack all the weird messages these shows send us about love, sex, and dating.

Welcome to Love to See It, a podcast about conspiracy theories and Maddie Trizzy Trout.

Girl, you don't know, you don't know.

I don't know. You know what, I watched all those clips from that live and I still don't know what the hell is going on.

If you don't get that reference, look, you obviously haven't been obsessively reading Bachelor news and gossip and Instagram accounts and we count you healthy and lucky for that.

That's beautiful for you. Unfortunately, we do know the reference and we're going to share that information with you today.

Unfortunately, it is our professional duty. I did refuse to fully commit to that grant Trout impression, but I think that was the right decision. I agree.

So today we're going to be getting into some of the Bachelor news and gossip that because there's just been a lot going on recently and we have not had time to just really dig into it with all of you.

So today, it's just the two of us were catching up.

It's been a crazy summer. The important morsels. It's been a crazy summer.

And it's been a crazy summer for us. I'm like, when in between all of our vacations and vows of illness, are we going to have a chance to talk about all the crazy shit that's happening in Bachelor nation?

So we finally found a pocket of time. I mostly recovered and Emma hasn't yet.

You sound much better. I haven't had the country yet. We're doing great.

So we have to start with a story that I mean, I don't think we ever wanted to have to talk about. We didn't want it to be true. We didn't want it to exist.

But we can't do a news and gossip episode and not touch on it. It's so fresh. It's still rocking Bachelor nation.

So the claims of these two women who came forward and said that Nate Mitchell recently eliminated contestant on Gabby Wendy's half of this season of the bachelor at that he dated both of them in the last couple of years and actually sort of two timed them and also kept important information from from one of the women who he dated for around a year and a half on and off.

Including that he was going through a divorce and that he had a child who which we all know about his child from watching the show she claims she only learned about the child when he appeared on the bachelor at.

So this you know Nate was Nate was a front runner. Nate was a front runner for our hearts.

Nate was a vaccination favorite. This really rocked the community, I think. Yeah, I mean overall the news was just a massive bummer like I think there is this fantasy that we inevitably all kind of buy into in watching this show which involves getting to crush on the various contestants and getting to you know fully buy into the characters.

And I they are real people but what we are seeing as viewers is in essence a character that the show has made certain decisions to meticulously shape and obviously also shows you know particular parts of any given person's personality.

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