Hey, Polpa Chair. It's Hacks on Taft with David Axelrod and Mike Murphy.

Well Axe, another contest of champions. You were there in Ohio. I was down here in the

Vital Swing State of Florida. What do you think? I think that this is going to be a

real experiment. This Hacks on Taft because is it morning or night? I'm not sure.

Went late here in Columbus. I'm operating on fumes, but I'll tell you what I

think. You think River Moon makes a lot of sense. That's often what happens. I think

Mary O'Como once said that only in cowboy movies to people shoot backwards.

And that's what Elizabeth Warren learned last night because she is now certifiably

the frontrunner based on the returns from last night's debate and the amount of

attention that she got. I think everyone had her name on their lips and not

always in the kindest of ways. Yeah, she got the old love massage. You get when

everybody figures you are the thing between them and any shot at the

nomination. I think that's true. And I'll tell you, I think Mary Pete had a big

thing happen last night. It was the first time at least to me that he was not an

observer and a commentator in one of these debates, but an active fighting

participant. And I saw him with you guys on CNN afterward and he had the gleam in

his eye of somebody who figured out that if you draw a little blood, it tastes

good. So I think if Pete breaks through in Iowa and New Hampshire and really gets

in this race, last night will be where it started for him. Well, I agree with you.

And I think that was his objective going into the race. They sort of signaled

that he was going to tangle with Warren, maybe with Beto, you know, Warren over

Medicare for all more of that in a second. And but he needed to look, we've talked

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