Welcome to edition 97 part 4 of our Kill and Unfoil podcast with the

Rachel Fairburn and Kira Pritchand McLean. Just before we start we'll do our

usual disclaimer this isn't here our worship we do this podcast because we're

mutual interesting serial killers as long as we add in this podcast it stops us

from writing some new prison. This is the fourth part? Yeah it's gonna be

five parts isn't it? Yeah this is the eighth part of Charles Manson and the

Manson family but this has been recorded on New Year's Eve the morning of

isn't it? Yeah the morning of New Year's Eve it is 10 past nine in the morning

on the 31st December 2000 and 22. If you're listening to this aliens have

landed and the world is no longer recording this from inside a cupboard. As usual

I'm in a hotel in Brighton where are you? I'm in a home. I've heard about this

what's called the Chinese room. Sorry are you some aristocrat? Yes so this is

all Ming dynasty and I told you what it's called the Chinese room. No well

is this where you eat Chinese? It's the bar and grill. Oh right yeah so it's

known as my partner surname bar and grill because it's his bar and grill but

because whenever we have a chindian which is when we get Chinese in an Indian

and the best of both bits fusion I believe it's called and we sit down and we

eat it in here because there's a proper table I'm all sit around a chat. When

this company came round to give me a quote for heating they did it by room by

room like how many radios where it would go and they kept calling this from the

Chinese room and I said what are they why they calling that? What we would

call the dining room? Why they calling that the Chinese room? We realized it's

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