Welcome to edition 1-2-3, 123 of all'Hillop podcast with me, Rachel Fairburn, and Kiri Pritchard McLean. Just before we start, we'll do our usual disclaimer. This isn't here I worship. We do this podcast because of mutual interest in serial killers. As long as we are doing this podcast, it stops us from writing to them in prison. It does. Halloween edition. I think mine might be extra spooky.

I don't know if you can hear it on the microphone, but there's footsteps in the room above

me and it could be a ghost or it could be a joiner putting in an inbuilt cupboard.

We've got a spooky friend in the house at the moment.

There's a mouse in the house.

Listen, I obviously live in an old house.

I went through a big stage earlier this year where my car and my house had rats in.

And apparently it was very normal.

Well, no, it wasn't very normal.

But when we went to get a humane rat trap,

they were like everyone on the island is dealing with rats at the moment.

The thing is though, it's like, it's only me that's seen it.

But what happens is, it's a ghost trap.

But what happens is we both frighten each other.

So twice we've both gone, and the mouse or whatever it is is run one way and I've run

another.

And then I've been like, 10, 10. and then yesterday it emerged from behind the washing machine thinking it was safe and then I walked in

and we both went and ran each each way but I've said I don't want to deal with it because I obviously

it has to leave the house but I'm away for a couple of days now and I do not want to be here when

it's dealt with and I part of me wants to give it treats but we cannot do that so it's uh it's um

also I hate the eye it's got a real heavy body you can hear it slam like you know know, it's got a real weight to it.

Is it not a rat then? I don't know what the fuck it is. I don't want to get involved.

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