The Welcome to this special bonus episode of All Kill No Philip Podcast with me, Rachel Fairbren and Kiripich am McClain.

Just before we start, we'll do our usual disclaimer.

This isn't Hero Worship.

We do this podcast because we have a mutual interest in serial killers,

as long as we are doing

this podcast it stops us from writing to them in prison. Yes you mentioned this is a

bonus episode and it is in that basically we recorded the Halloween episodes and were like,

because that goes out at the end of October, let's record another episode,

so you get hopefully another episode when you would expect it in the middle of the month and then three

god damn bonus episodes on Halloween so this is we went for we were going to go for a sort of

light-hearted historical romp having Having said that, there's some pretty horrific

things about to be described in this.

Yeah, and I think a lot of it's bullshit quite frankly.

I think it's absolute ableist bullshit but I will get

onto that strong views and who knew that we would be covering a case where

basically a pamphlet is at the center of it, which is I think one of the

driest words in the world. If anyone says pamphlet to me I'm like fuck, you know.

The surname Chapman comes from pamphlet sellers.

Does it?

Chat books. That's what they used to call them those cheap little books that people had that you could buy you know

Back in the day I mean talking like a couple of hundred years ago. They used travel from town to town selling them

Chat books that's, and the chapman would sell the books.

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