All is Not Lost (with Tony Messenger)
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4.7 • 8.8K Ratings
🗓️ 7 December 2021
⏱️ 75 minutes
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Summary
DeRay, Kaya, De’Ara, and Myles cover the underreported news of the week—including a Miami Art Basel policy change, Josephine Baker's high honor in France, Black tech entrepreneurs tackling health care's race gap, and the world of underground adoption. DeRay interviews Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Tony Messenger on his book PROFIT AND PUNISHMENT: How America Criminalizes the Poor in the Name of Justice.
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Myles https://www.npr.org/2021/11/30/1059776777/josephine-baker-france-pantheon
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, this is Durey and welcome to Pots of the People and this episode is me, Kaya Miles, |
| 0:08.1 | NDR talking about all the news that you didn't know from the past week. And that's it down with |
| 0:12.6 | Pulp Surprise winning journalist Tony Messenger who I've known for a long time ever since the days |
| 0:17.5 | in Ferguson to discuss his new book, Profit and Punishment, How America Criminalizes the Poor |
| 0:21.9 | in the Name of Justice. The advice for this week is to enjoy your friends and family y'all. It's like |
| 0:28.0 | and I say enjoy it purposely because there are a lot of people who like y'all are hanging out |
| 0:32.2 | but y'all not enjoying each other like y'all are together because I got to be together |
| 0:35.4 | with families around but like play the game play taboo play Uno play space I play |
| 0:40.8 | space with somebody recently who snever get a space and he will never be my partner again |
| 0:45.1 | in space but a good guy like do the thing like actually it's for you to enjoy |
| 0:49.0 | and enjoy each other. Let's go. Family welcome to another episode of Pots of the People. I'm DR |
| 1:01.2 | Ballinger you can find me on Instagram and Twitter at DR Ballinger. I'm Mildi Johnson you can |
| 1:06.8 | find me on Instagram and Twitter at Rapture spelled very very weirdly. I'm Kaya Henderson you |
| 1:12.0 | can find me on Twitter at Henderson Kaya and this is Drey D.R.A.Y on Twitter. I think I want to start with |
| 1:21.7 | just holding some space for Virgil Abelow who we lost through a battle that actually the public |
| 1:34.0 | did not know about with a rare form of heart cancer so for y'all that don't know Virgil Abelow |
| 1:42.3 | you should get to know his work he's been incredibly influential in the fashion space but also in |
| 1:49.3 | the culture space. I think really reimagining a lot of cultural spaces for black folks and for |
| 2:00.4 | folks of color and so he most recently was the creative director for Louis Vuitton but has his own |
| 2:06.8 | brand called Off White and just seemed I did not know him but just seemed to be a good dude who |
| 2:17.9 | was all about opening doors and now it makes so much sense that he pushed himself to accomplish |
| 2:23.3 | so much since he knew that he was on a short timeline. So yeah I just feel like you know this |
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