All Iran The Botchtower
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🗓️ 25 June 2025
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Summary
Welcome to hell, because we’ve reached the hot war phase of the second Trump presidency. Or have we?
In this episode, Matt and Brian discuss:
* What has actually happened, both since 2018, and just in the past couple weeks, and why it’s so unlikely to have left the U.S. and the world better off.
* Is there any upside to Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu using and playing each other in a way that undermines both of their political goals?
* What’s the least worst and worst worst possible near-medium term outlook?
Then, behind the paywall, how opponents of Trump and his war can balance political and substantive objections? Is it possible to oppose/criticize/mock Trump for his spastic, failed policy without driving him toward further hostilities? Is that even a consideration Democrats should heed? What about the fact that Trump and his administration lied to justify the attacks? That the strikes were illegal? That they may lead to American civilian deaths?
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Further reading:
* Brian on how Trump’s evolution from shitty president who posts a lot to shitty president who wields dictatorial power should bring an end to the Democratic tick of brushing off all of his outrages as “distractions.”
* Matt’s 21 thoughts on Trump’s Iran war.
* Chris Murphy: 8 Things You Should Know About Trump's Strikes on Iran.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | I feel like they should be pivoting to talk about health care more. |
| 0:03.6 | The Ayatollah's got to get on social media to do some TikToks. |
| 0:07.7 | We are not going to bother to kill Americans because the president of the United States |
| 0:11.2 | is about to kill tens of thousands of Americans by removing 10 million of them from their health care. |
| 0:16.7 | Yeah, that's what I'm saying. |
| 0:17.7 | And like, you know, we keep being like, well, you know, it's just not as attention-grabbing as other issues and stuff. |
| 0:22.5 | But it's like, you know, if the Ayatollahs did, if people would pay attention to that, right? |
| 0:31.4 | Hey, everyone, you're listening to a free preview of the politics podcast. |
| 0:35.2 | This week, what if Donald Trump took his fickle, impulsive, |
| 0:39.1 | aggrieved, ego-driven approach to tariffs and applied it to war? Well, welcome to hell, |
| 0:46.7 | because his presidency has entered a new chapter. We'll talk about Trump's acts of war against Iran, |
| 0:52.5 | whether we're at war with Iran now, why none of |
| 0:55.6 | this makes any sense, even if there's at least some possibility that it doesn't spiral in a |
| 1:00.3 | disaster, whether and how Democrats should oppose it, and so on. If you want to hear the whole |
| 1:05.6 | conversation, upgrade your subscription to paid at politics.fm. |
| 1:13.6 | Hey, everyone. welcome to the politics podcast. |
| 1:15.7 | I'm Brian Boiler. |
| 1:16.8 | I'm Matthew Glezias. |
| 1:18.3 | From the looks of your rustic forested background, I would guess you were some rural |
| 1:24.8 | backwater like Maine. |
| 1:26.3 | I'm in Maine. |
| 1:27.2 | I do not have my, my good microphone |
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