Hello, gorgeous. It is Lala Kamp. Welcome back to the Give Them Lala podcast. I'm so excited because I have a

freaking icon on the pod today. Teresa, Jude Ice. Do you still go by Jude Ice? Yes. Yes, I do. Well,

welcome to my pod. Thank you. I'm so excited to be on

your podcast. Thank you. So a lot of people said they wrote in questions, which I'll ask you on

the bonus, but some people were like, how did you guys become good after what you said X, Y, and Z?

And I'm like, you know, you're a very, I call you a gangster, Teresa,

because not many women could go through what you've gone through and truly come out on top.

And I'm not just saying that. I've had these conversations with people, whether I'm

sitting in front of you or behind your back, no mic, no camera. I really,

really admire the person that you are. And I think watching your girls is a true testament to

who you are as a person. So I want to first say thank you for hearing me out when I wrote you

that DM. I say things and they come across in a way that that was never my intent.

And I feel like you and I bonded over that DM and you were so gracious and kind.

So I just wanted to say thank you for that.

Yeah. No. And then I mean, I think, and then we have we used the same hairdresser, Lena, like she.

Yes, Lena. Yeah. and then and then i think

lena said to i think you know you maybe you misunderstood teresa or whatever she's like i think

you guys would get along and then so i'm glad you listen to her and yeah i mean listen we all

have our perception like when we you know we see someone we think the person's this way, but they're really not that way.

Or you hear things from other people.

Or maybe if you watch the show, then you think of, oh, that person's this way.

But I always say never judge.

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