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Hey, welcome in. This is the All Ball podcast. I'm Doug Gottlieb, and I'm joining you actually from Super Week. And, you know, I thought about how to put together a Kobe podcast. Next week we'll have, I've reached out to a couple other people.

And I, you know, we have some really good guests lined up

to talk some more Kobe. But I want to share with you guys a couple of things because,

one, I think it's cathartic too. I kind of got to know him. And honestly, he was, he actually had asked me to come on this podcast and this is a

weird thing in our business you know when you make a friend and cobi and i weren't always

friendly or friends or whatever like i don't really know him um it's like we're like ships passing

in the night like los angeles is orange county is my hometown, yet he moved into Newport Beach when I was, you know, I was away of college and then playing overseas.

And, you know, for the first, what was it, 12 years out of college, you know, there's 2000, 2012.

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