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Hey, what I'm welcome in. I'm Doug Gottlie. This is All Ball. This is part two of our talk with

John Higgins. John Higgins, who is now retired from game officiating, was one of the most

well-regarded, well-known, and by fans, I think, disliked officials in college basketball.

And if you listen to part one, you'd know why, because he wasn't scared to make the big call on the road.

He's got the sandy brown hair.

And of course, he talked to us about his yoga pants and why he wore those.

So there's a lot to him.

I think you'll really enjoy part two where we start to talk about a little bit more about officiating and what he wishes he could change about the game, how he would do it if he put together a rule book.

And does he miss it now with his first year where he's not officiating college games?

What's it like to officiate in the Final Four?

All these things upcoming.

We had a crazy weekend in college basketball where Michigan State

kind of out of nowhere figured it out for a day against Baylor. But the bigger one to me,

that's worth talking about, is Brony James. Ronnie had five points, came out the bench,

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