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Switched on Pop

All About Those Baseline Assumptions About Femini$m in Pop

Switched on Pop

Vox Media Podcast Network

Music Interviews, Music History, Music, Music Commentary

4.62.7K Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2016

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

With Meghan Trainor's new singles "No" and "Me Too" ubiquitous on the radio dial, a larger discussion about the uneasy relationship between social movements and selling records takes a feminist bent. Memories of the polarizing 2014 hit "All About that Bass" come to the surface, reigniting debates over whether Trainor's songs express radical thought or package it for mass consumption. Or is that distinction a distraction, forgetting that manufactured pop can still pack a political punch? That might depend on how you listen. Andi Zeisler, author of "We Were Feminists Once," professor Robin James, blogger Jenny Trout and writer Andrea Warner join for a dive into the complexities of feminist pop politics. FEATURING Meghan Trainor - Me Too Meghan Trainor - No Meghan Trainor - All About That Bass Spice Girls - Wannabe Big Sean - Dance (A$$) Taylor Swift - Shake It off Demi Lovato - Confident Grimes - Flesh Without Blood The Slits - Typical Girls Sleater-Kinney - #1 Must Have Jonathan Hoyle - Never Ending Road Lizzo - Good As Hell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey Nate, so I've got a topic for this week that might be a little bit of a minefield.

0:05.4

Okay, you mean metaphorically speaking, I think.

0:09.4

Yeah, definitely.

0:10.5

We're in a closet and under a blanket recording.

0:13.5

We're definitely not in danger of anything.

0:15.7

Right, but okay, so what is this metaphorical minefield?

0:19.6

Megan Trainor's back on the charts.

0:20.9

She's got two new songs on which she re-engages with a pop feminist message,

0:26.1

which she's been known for.

0:27.3

I think I'd ever read that.

0:30.7

That I woke up feeling this way.

0:34.7

And I can't help loving myself.

0:38.0

And I don't need nobody else.

0:41.0

No, no, no.

0:42.0

My name is no, my son is no, my number is no.

0:46.0

You need to let it go, you need to let it go.

0:48.6

Need to let it go.

0:50.0

Not to the heart, not to the no, no, no.

0:52.2

Uh-huh.

0:53.0

Yeah, when we first heard Megan Trainor singing about pop feminism,

0:56.3

she was focusing on the specific topic of body empowerment on her song all about that

1:01.7

base from a few years back.

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