Hello everybody and welcome to Three Point Perspective, the podcast about illustration, how to do it,

how to make a living at it, and how to make an impact in the world with your art.

I'm Jake Parker.

I'm Lee White.

And I'm Will Terry, and all three of us are professional illustrators.

Together we've published somewhere in the neighborhood of 75 books.

We've worked for all the major publishers in the business,

and we've all taught illustration at university art programs.

That's right.

Each week we come at you guys with listener questions and fantastic interviews

on the topic of illustration.

Sometimes we agree, sometimes we argue,

but each time you learn something brand spanking new all right

well terry you've got a big update for us tell us what is going on at your house right now well uh yeah

we got our we got our books and we started selling books and it's pickleleball Paul and so if you're not into

pickleball it might not be something that you're into but it's a it's a children's

book a full it's a storybook on basically a hero's journey on not being good

enough to play and then working through those fears and everything and with

friends and all and happy endings at the end.

So yeah, I decided to self-publish this one because it's such a strong niche and I didn't

think that the big publishers would be going after it anytime soon and they're not currently.

And also that the people that might enjoy this book

...