All About Public Lands and a Major Win, with Joel Pedersen of TRCP

The Orvis Fly-Fishing Podcast

James Hathaway

Bass, Fishing, Bonefish, Wilderness, Flyfishing, Trout, How To, Steelhead, Bluegill, Fly, Orvis, Sports, Salmon, Panfish, Education, Rosenbauer

4.8 • 1.9K Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

We've recently won a big battle for public lands, and my guest this week, Joel Pedersen [25:56] of Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership, fills us in on what we've won and what we need to keep an eye on for the future. But the podcast is much more than that. Joel educates us on the differences between the major classes of public lands—National Forests, BLM land, National Parks, and Wilderness areas and just what uses are allowed on each—and who makes the decision on extractive industries in these vast tracts of land that WE as citizens and taxpayers own.

In the Fly Box this week, as usual we have some great questions that might benefit your own fly fishing, including:

I'm curious about who might be your successor on the podcast
A listener informs us why he thinks a 4-weight rod is a better option for smaller streams than a 3-weight.
Why do most of the hook eyes on flies orient horizontally? When would I want a fly with a vertically oriented eye?
I have the Orvis Essential Trout Fly Selection. What else would I need for fishing the great Arkansas tailwaters this summer?
Another listener asks if a 3-weight or 4-weight rod is better for small streams.
When my indicator is bobbing along in riffles, does that action hurt my presentation?
A good tip from a listener on how to get a stuck rod apart.
What are the pros and cons of using a stand-up paddleboard for carp and pike fishing, and what brand do you recommend?
I have not done well fishing as high water recedes. Is this typical?

Transcript

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0:00.0	Hi, and welcome to the Orvis Fly Fishing Podcast.
0:13.1	This is your host, Tom Roosevelt.
0:14.8	And my guest this week is Joel Peterson.
0:17.4	Joel is president and CEO of the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership.
0:23.6	And Joel has some really good news for us that happened quite recently regarding public lands.
0:31.7	And also, maybe even more interest, Joel goes into detail about how the different classes of public lands are managed.
0:43.0	You know, you have, you have national forest, you have BLM land, you have national park land, and you also have wilderness areas as well as private conservancies, nature conservancy lands.
0:55.7	And Joel really gets into detail and talks about the differences between these various classes of public land.
1:06.3	Because they are different.
1:08.0	And honestly, I never knew exactly what the differences between them were.
1:13.8	So I think it's really educational and again, there's some good news that I want to share with
1:21.0	all of you.
1:25.9	And before we do the flybox, I'm going to give you some ideas on people to fish with and places to fish in the coming year or perhaps next year.
1:38.3	I'm going to talk about some Orvis endorsed operations that you may or not have heard of.
1:44.0	The first one is independent guide, Steve Scooby Stub. some Orvis endorsed operations that you may or may not have heard of.
1:54.0	The first one is independent guide, Steve Scooby Stub, and Steve fishes in the secluded marsh flats in the Palo Goucho and Midlakes area in Texas.
1:58.1	And if you want to catch big large mouths on deer hair poppers or big bluegills, gar,
2:05.9	freshwater strippers, Steve's the one to go with.
2:10.3	And, you know, there's a lot of flyfishers in Texas,
2:13.1	and they often go to places like Colorado and Montana and Alaska to fish.
2:17.3	But there's some great fly fishing
2:19.3	in Texas itself. And Steve can show you some of the very best. While you're there, you'll see
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