The highly anticipated second part of our conversation with Alison McCrary (enneagram 3) is here! The Reverend (Joseph Stabile) takes host duties in today's episode as he and Alison talk about their callings and their journey. Alison started Methodist and now is Catholic. Joe started Catholic and now is Methodist. Wow, the journey they've been on! Would the Reverend make a good butcher? Alison and the Black Panthers teaming up? Could Suzanne and Joe keep up with Alison for a day? Today's episode is light on enneagram, but so heavy on Journey, and we think that is a great thing, and hope you do too! Two links from the podcast that we hope you'll check out: Alison talks about her work with inmates on death row. If you would like to learn more and support that ministry, click here. And, if you want to learn more about Alison and all she is doing in the world, visit alisonmccrary.com PLUG TIME! 1. Enneagram Bootcamp is August 1-3, and May is the final month to take advantage of the Early Bird price! If you are wanting to join a community growing around Stress, Loss, and Relationship, this is a weekend for you. CLICK HERE for all of the important information and registration. 2. Now is the time to apply for the 2025 LTM Cohort Program! The deadline for all applications is August 20th, but don't delay and forget. Next year will be the first year LTM hosts 6! Cohorts: Enneagram, Enneagram and Family Systems, De/Reconstruction, Enneagram and Contemplative Spirituality, Leading Change, and Enneagram for the Modern World. Click here or visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025cohort for all of the important information and applications. TODAY'S INTRO At Least It Was Here, The 88 Sister Act 2: Back in the Habit (Touchstone Pictures, 1993) Hitch (Columbia Pictures, 2005) Parks and Rec (S6: E10)