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Welcome, Judy. Welcome to the Untold Story Podcast.

I'm Martha McCallum.

Thanks for joining us today.

And boy, has it been quite a day in the Trump court case downtown in Manhattan and the appearance. And we never know who's going to be on the stand each day. But we got word this morning that Stormy Daniels, who is at the center of

this case, if not legally, certainly figuratively, in terms of how this all played out. So I'm

really glad to have Alina Haba with me. She has been in

court all day today, all day yesterday. She, of course, is an attorney for President Trump, not on this

case, but on several of the other cases and also serves as a legal spokesperson for him. So hi,

Alina. Welcome. Hi. Thanks for having me. So, you know, let's just start with your sense of, obviously, there were a lot of salacious details in there. And one of the things that I found the most interesting was that after this witness was announced today, there was a lot of back and forth and a lot of push from the defense team, the Trump

defense team, to say that there should be limits on what she was allowed to talk about

based on what this case is really about. Tell me your thoughts on that. And obviously,

that, you know, they didn't get what they wanted there. And then we, we saw what we saw.

Right.

I think it was an important argument to be made, which was that we needed to have guardrails.

You know, having her as a witness is kind of irrelevant other than if they want to bring her in

for the books and records portion of this case.

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