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The Briefing Room

Aliens: Are we closer to finding intelligent life beyond Earth?

The Briefing Room

BBC

News, News Commentary

4.8731 Ratings

🗓️ 28 December 2023

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Aliens are back on the radar after a US Congressional hearing in the summer that featured former intelligence officer, David Grusch. The US Air Force veteran was once part of a task force created to look into what used to be called UFOs. Mr Grusch gave evidence that caused a sensation in America, claiming that the US military had, for decades, been in possession of crashed UFOs and 'non-human biologics'.

His shocking claims were evidence that, whatever their accuracy, both created and reflected a growing and serious debate - from astrophysicists and astrobiologists to policymakers about what if anything, is out there. Anything alive and anything civilised.

So, as 2023 turns into 2024, what is the state of our understanding about whether or not we are alone in space? David Aaronovitch explores the history of UFOs stretching back to the 1940s and discusses whether intelligent life exists beyond Earth.

David Aaronovitch talks to: Dr Maggie Aderin-Pocock, British space scientist and science educator Garrett Graff, Journalist and historian. Author of ‘UFO: The Inside Story of the U.S. Government's Search for Alien Life Here ― and Out There’. Avi Loeb, Astrophysicist and Baird Professor of Science at Harvard University Monica Grady, Professor of Planetary and Space Science at the Open University.

Presenter: David Aaronovitch Producer: Sally Abrahams Sound: James Beard and Neil Churchill Editor: Richard Vadon

Archive Credits: Congressional Hearing on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, 26 July 2023 courtesy of C-Span

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:07.4

The subcommittee hearing on unidentified anomalous phenomena or UAPs will come to order.

0:14.4

Welcome, everyone.

0:15.3

Back in July, at a special hearing in the U.S. Congress, a former intelligence officer called

0:20.7

David Grush,

0:22.1

once passed a task force created to look into what used to be called UFOs, gave evidence

0:27.4

that caused a sensation in America.

0:30.0

Mr. Gresh, finally, do you believe that our government is in possession of UAPs?

0:34.2

Absolutely based on interviewing over 40 witnesses over four years.

0:38.4

And where?

0:39.5

I know the exact locations and those locations were provided to the Inspector General.

0:44.6

It was evidence that whatever its accuracy, both created and reflected a growing and serious debate

0:51.7

from astrophysicists and astrobiologists to policy makers

0:55.6

about what, if anything, is out there?

0:59.5

That is, anything alive and anything civilised.

1:03.5

So, as 2023 turns into 2024, what is the state of our understanding

1:09.6

about whether or not we are alone in space.

1:14.7

Ignore the door to the TARDIS, but instead step inside the briefing room and together we'll try to find out.

1:25.4

Firstly, let's dig a bit deeper into recent news about possible extraterrestrial activity

1:30.7

and the government's role in investigating UFOs.

1:35.2

Dr Maggie Adairn-Pocock is a British space scientist and science educator.

1:40.6

Maggie Adair in Pocock, let's start with David Grush, that former US Air Force officer,

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