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It's all intertwined, Karen, because they had to send Operation High Jump, led by Admiral Bird and his naval carrier group down to Antarctica to check on New Schwabin Land.

And Brad Olsen's done a lot of great reporting on this lately with a letter that apparently

has turned up from so on a German who made it to New Schwabin Land, was on his way there

and wrote to his friend basically giving him the coordinates or directions, hey Beth, thank you for being in a live audience,

and others like Hillbilly Herb.

But basically, you know, saying, hey, Otto,

I'm on my way to New Schwab and Land,

if you want to follow behind me, it's all real.

Everything, you know, but you can't tell anyone, obviously and then you know that letter is only surfacing you know from

1940s Germany to now right 2025-ish because I'm not sure how long ago

Brad was able to stumble upon that letter and then I got to see him present upon it.

Nice.

Yeah. And, you know, it was basically the allied powers trying to catch up to the Germans and the Japanese

because the Germans were basically the ones through the Vril Domain, Vrille

Society, led by Maria Orsick, going back to, I believe, as early as 1920s, Germany, but especially

1930s. And they got swooped up and unfortunately used by that regime. It wasn't in time, obviously, to overtly hear on the surface change, turn the tide of the war. I mean, obviously everyone thinks, you know, the Allies won, you know, World War II. And that's really where you get things like Philip K. Dick and the man in the High Castle,

why that writing is so important.

I personally believe, it shows an alternate world parallel timeline where,

overtly the Japanese and Germans have won World War II.

But the Germans and Japanese, they went from Antarctica to the moon and then shortly thereafter

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