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You saw an image in a book, an image of an ET craft, and it immediately sparked something very profound in you.

I made you realize something.

You want to tell us all about how that happened for you and what was the result?

Sure.

Well, you know, I think since I was a little girl, I have this profound feeling of empathy for humans, for kids.

And somehow that made me feel also strange things in my room when I went to sleep.

So I usually used to cover all of me till my head, you know,

because I used to feel like things touching my legs or my body.

And I was having these dreams about flying and so you know but I wasn't here other kids or my

family talking about this stuff what happened is that um when I was seven years old, well, my mother and my father are, my mother is a nurse.

And my father, rest in peace, was a pediatrician.

And so we used to have a beautiful library in the third floor of our house.

And the library was full of medical books.

And for some reason I had this profound, like I really wanted to know our body from the inside out.

So looking at those pictures, the lungs, the heart, you know, how it functions and

everything was really amazing for me.

But there was this time when I was seven years old

that as usual I got to my home,

I went and picked up one of those books.

But when I opened it,

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