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I was getting ready to have a pretty substantial surgery.

And because of my past medical history, I had been terrified of surgery. I had told my family, you know,

I wasn't going. I was going to run away. I was going to hide. Whatever it took. And I meant

it. I was not going to do it. And I was laying in bed that night and I'm praying, you know,

God, if you're really there and I believed, but I'm praying you know God if you're really there and and I believed

but I had you know with all the things I was going through there was that little doubt in the back of my

mind so I said God you know if you're really there you've got to give me a way out or a way through this

I can't do it and next thing know, I'm standing on a cloud.

And I see this person in front of me, but I couldn't tell if they were male or female.

And at the time, I didn't know angels didn't have gender. But I just know it had long golden hair a beautiful beautiful white robe and it approached me but it didn't say a word audibly it walked around behind me and I remember it was like it talked to me but not aud audibly, and said everything was going to be okay.

Mm-hmm.

And then I looked up and I'm seeing the gates of heaven.

It was like up on these blue blocks, I mean, white blocks with like blue crosses on it.

Mm-hmm.

And the gates were so, so shiny.

And I remember looking into it and there's this bright, bright light, the brightest light I have ever seen in my life.

And it doesn't hurt my eyes.

And I feel this feeling just radiating of love beyond belief.

And I looked up and I seen a group of angels in front of the gates.

And again, I hear them talk but not audibly.

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