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"Alien life: rare or restrained?" | Nite Drift

Euphomet

And,If Studios

Personal Journals, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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*Advertising heard during this program is not personally endorsed by the host or producers unless otherwise stated. Ads are dynamically inserted and selected by our distribution partners. To learn more about how ads are chosen or to manage your ad preferences, visit ⁠podcastchoices.com/adchoices⁠. To listen to this Euphomet program ad-free visit ⁠the Society of The Strange⁠. Nite Drift is an independent production — a place where stories of the strange find their signal in the dark. The following episode of Nite Drift may explore themes or ideas some listeners could find unsettling. Listener discretion is advised. There’s a particular quiet that arrives when we talk about the future, a stillness where possibility, fear, and wonder all occupy the same space. In this episode, futurist and physicist Isaac Arthur joins Jim Perry for a conversation that feels both grounded and cosmic. Together, they explore the unfolding edges of human potential: megastructures, orbital life, AI woven into consciousness, and a humanity that may one day splinter into many versions of itself. But woven through the science is something older — a question whispered across time: If the universe is so vast, why is it so silent? [ Enjoy this show ad-free by joining ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠the Society of The Strange⁠⁠⁠⁠ ] Isaac dives into the Fermi Paradox, the possibility of life everywhere and nowhere, and why alien visitation...if it exists...may not look anything like the stories we tell in film or folklore. He is skeptical, yes — but never dismissive. He leaves room for wonder, for mystery, for the possibility that the unknown still has teeth. Across the hour, the conversation drifts between engineering and imagination — where fusion reactors sit beside ancient myths, and where the future of humanity reads like both a warning and a promise. Along the way The difference between exploration and survival Why the first steps beyond Earth will be messy, imperfect, and deeply human How science fiction shapes — and sometimes traps — our expectations Why certainty can be a dangerous comfort And why sometimes the most honest answer is still: I don’t know. This episode isn’t meant to resolve the tension — only to live inside it. For anyone who’s ever looked up at the night sky and wondered whether we are alone — or whether we simply haven’t learned how to listen — this conversation is an invitation to stay curious. Listen in. And let the silence mean possibility. Works mentioned: https://isaacarthur.net/ https://www.youtube.com/@isaacarthurSFIA ******* Read this too: ⁠High Strangeness: Book One: 1967 Issue⁠ ******* Nite Drift is an Euphomet production for And,If Studios Hosted by Jim Perry Produced by Jim Perry, Kyle Gilmer, and Jon McEdward Edit, Original Music, and Sound Design by Jon McEdward Visualizer by Jack Dillaplain Cover Art by Jake Beautle Ad Network Director is Chelsey Weber Smith for And,If Studios Guest Booking by Michelle Freed Share your experience with Euphomet ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Euphomet Contact Form⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Signal Hotline⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Support Euphomet Join ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Society of The Strange⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠or ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠iTunes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@euphomet⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and #euphomet Transmissions received at [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The

0:07.0

The From somewhere between the known and the unknown and the unknown, this is Nightdrift.

0:40.3

I'm Jim Perry, a show for the curious and the haunted, a space to drift between what's real and what refuses to be defined.

0:49.5

Tonight we follow that pull into the dark, into the cosmos itself.

0:55.0

The sky above us has always been a kind of mirror.

0:59.0

What we imagine up there often tells us what we are longing for down here.

1:04.0

Connection, discovery, proof that we're not alone.

1:08.0

And yet every time we send our voices out into the void,

1:11.9

the universe replies with silence,

1:15.2

or maybe even something quieter.

1:18.0

Maybe it replies with light.

1:20.8

What you're about to hear is a story about light,

1:23.4

the kind that crosses unimaginable distance,

1:25.9

and the kind that finds you in the dark.

1:28.6

This is where our night begins.

1:36.2

I showed Rachel my hometown last week.

1:39.1

It's misty bluffs, the haunted lighthouse, seals, and salt air, and a spot along the highway I all but forgot

1:46.5

about, and an experience in which I only remembered after getting back to Detroit.

1:52.7

It came to me in waves, like a fog rolling in from the trench of memory.

1:57.6

When I was 20, I ran home to the ocean, dropped out, cashed out, drifted west until the highway

2:03.6

hit the water, back home.

2:05.6

That's where I stayed for a while, in a town where the fog rarely lifted, and the seagulls

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