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Totally Booked with Zibby

Alice Hoffman, WHEN WE FLEW AWAY: A Novel of Anne Frank Before the Diary

Totally Booked with Zibby

Zibby Owens

Parenting, Literary, Moms, Arts, Reading, Entertainment, Books, Connection, Inspiration

4.5643 Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2024

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Bestselling author Alice Hoffman joins Zibby to discuss WHEN WE FLEW AWAY, a stunning, lyrical, heartwrenching children’s book exploring the little-known details of Anne Frank’s life before she went into hiding. Alice shares how she combined meticulous historical research with imagined thoughts to fill in the gaps in Anne’s relationships, particularly focusing on themes of sisterhood and the mother-daughter dynamic. Alice also reflects on the enduring hope and resilience Anne Frank represented, even during dark times, and stresses the importance of remembering her story amid rising antisemitism. Finally, she shares the emotional experience of visiting Anne’s house and school, the impact of fairy-tale storytelling, and her creative process.


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0:00.0

Welcome to Moms Don't Have Time to Read Books, hosted by me, Zibi Owens.

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It's an award-winning podcast with over 1,900 episodes, all featuring authors of books you love and those you have yet to discover.

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0:17.2

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Go check it out at Zivimedia.com and follow me on Instagram at Zivie Owens.

0:36.8

It'll take you where you need to go. Thanks for listening.

0:42.8

Alice Hoffman is the author of When We Flew Away, a novel of Anne Frank before the diary. Alice is a repeat

0:49.9

guest on this podcast, and I'm delighted to have her back. Alice is the highly acclaimed author of

0:55.1

over 30 novels for readers of all ages, including the dovekeepers, the world that we knew,

1:00.3

which was the winner of the Dayton Literary Peace Prize, The Marriage of Opposites, Practical

1:05.7

Magic, Incantation, The Foretelling, and most recently The Invisible Hour. Her previous novels for Scholastic

1:13.1

Press are aquamarine, which was made into a major motion picture, indigo, green witch, and green

1:20.1

angel, which publishers weekly in a star review called Akingly Lovely, she lives outside of Boston.

1:26.5

Welcome, Alice. Thanks so much for coming back on

1:29.0

Mom's No Time to Read Book. So excited to discuss when we flew away, a novel of Anne Frank

1:33.3

before The Diary. Oh my gosh. So moving, so good. I really love this. I learned so many things

1:39.6

I didn't know about Anne Frank and her family. Really amazing. Congrats. What inspired this book?

1:46.7

Thank you so much, Zibbi. It's so nice to see you again. It's been a while. You know,

1:50.4

really, Anne Frank was a huge inspiration for me to become a writer and has been since the time I'm 12.

1:58.0

But really, what happened was Scholasta came to me. And it was

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