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Channels with Peter Kafka

Algorithms that give you anxiety and a Web3 project that doesn't suck.

Channels with Peter Kafka

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Tv & Film, Business News, News

4.4585 Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2022

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Kyle Chayka writes about tech and internet culture for the New Yorker; he’s also the co-founder of Dirt, a newsletter — powered in part by crypto — about… tech and internet culture. He talks to Recode’s Peter Kafka about both of his gigs: They dive deep into his recent essay about “The Age of Algorithmic Anxiety”, and what humans mean when they say they’re upset with The Algorithm. Then Chayka describes the way Dirt is using Web3 tech — specifically, a DAO - to help run Dirt, and why he thinks there are genuinely useful/non-scammy ways to apply the blockchain to media companies. Featuring: Kyle Chayka (@chaykak), Tech and Internet Culture writer for The New Yorker and Co-Founder of Dirt Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape. About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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kyle chaco one of the best writers

1:12.7

about the internet, I know. His day job is doing that for the New Yorker. And he also has a second

1:18.3

gig. He's the co-founder of Dirt, which is an online publication about internet culture.

1:23.8

It's also bizarrely one of the few good things, I think, to come out of Web 3. We could talk about that in a couple minutes. But first I wanted to, oh, first of all, let me be a better host. Welcome, Kyle. Thank you for having me. One of these days, I'm going to get better at hosting a podcast, but I'm still working on it. I wanted to ask you about a piece you wrote recently-ish for the New Yorker.

1:45.0

It's called The Age of Algorithmic Anxiety.

1:48.0

I thought it was good when it came out.

1:49.0

I think it's more relevant than ever for reasons we can discuss.

1:53.0

But what is algorithmic anxiety?

1:55.0

Yeah, I do think it's a feeling a lot of us are having.

1:58.0

Like you kind of have a gut reaction when you hear the phrase.

2:01.5

But officially, algorithmic anxiety is this phrase that an academic first came up with in

2:07.1

2018.

2:08.1

Oh, it's an academic phrase.

2:09.5

It's not just something you coin.

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