Algorithms and Oligopolies with Thomas Germain
Better Offline
Cool Zone Media and iHeartPodcasts
4.6 • 687 Ratings
🗓️ 21 August 2024
⏱️ 88 minutes
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Summary
In the fourth live-to-tape episode of Better Offlive, Ed Zitron sits down with the BBC's Thomas Germain to talk about breaking up big tech, and how we can find hope in the hopelessness of multiple monopolies and algorithms.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.5 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:06.7 | Hello and welcome to Better Offline, and we are live from beautiful New York City, Nevada. |
| 0:23.5 | Better Online. We're online. Better Off Live. |
| 0:26.7 | I am Ed Zittron. |
| 0:29.9 | I am your host, and I'm joined by Thomas Jermaine of the BBC today. |
| 0:30.8 | It's Better Off Life. |
| 0:31.6 | Welcome, Thomas. |
| 0:32.2 | Glad to be here. |
| 0:35.6 | So, it's been a very funny few weeks. |
| 0:40.7 | The Google is a monopoly, and of course, the next episode will be about that monopoly money stuff. |
| 0:48.1 | And it feels like something is breaking in tech, not necessarily in a bad way, in that we're finally moving. |
| 0:54.5 | It looks like the government is saying, it's time to not have five companies that do everything in tech. |
| 0:59.5 | Yeah, I mean, we're clearly at some kind of turning point, right? |
| 1:03.4 | I think, you know, if we'd been talking about this five years ago, I never would have predicted that we would have seen any meaningful antitrust action against any of these |
| 1:07.8 | companies. |
| 1:08.4 | Now it's all of them, and it seems like we're actually trending in the direction of doing something about it. And I'll even take that a step further. Two weeks ago, I would have probably said, I don't think Google loses the antitrust case. I think that they're going to win. I don't think the epic, the federal judge on the epic case, did you? So with that one for the listeners, we'll have the links in there about |
| 1:28.9 | this. The federal judge during the remedy stage of epic suing Google over their monopoly over the |
| 1:34.3 | play store has been very clear that he does not intend to let them get, like, let Google off easily |
| 1:41.3 | and has said, because Google has estimated $600 million of cost to fix the |
| 1:45.7 | Play Store. And it's kind of multifaceted. And the judge basically said when Google said, |
| 1:50.2 | this is going to be really difficult, not my problem, which is one of the funniest ways of putting |
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