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The Infinite Monkey Cage

Alfred Russel Wallace

The Infinite Monkey Cage

BBC

Comedy, Science

4.79.4K Ratings

🗓️ 22 July 2013

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Brian Cox and Robin Ince discuss the life and works of Alfred Russel Wallace, the lesser known co-founder of the theory of evolution by natural selection. They are joined on stage by biologists Steve Jones and Aoife McLysaght and comedian Tony Law to ask whether Wallace is the great unsung hero of biology and why it was Darwin who seems to have walked away with all the glory.

Transcript

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This is a download from the BBC. To find out more, visit bbc.co.uk slash radio4.

0:30.0

And that, of course, despite intelligent design cabaret scenes, vibrant attempts to manage to get into popular culture with such classic jokes as, wait a waiter, what's this flagellum doing in my soup? It's doing the backstroke, and there is no way the mechanism of movement can be explained by modern evolutionary theory.

0:59.0

By the way, as if, well, we are in that for a selection, we were talking about this beforehand, and some of the fantastic arguments that people have had against it, there's a documentary in America with a subtitle, no Darwin, no Hitler.

1:10.0

In which, at one point this guy goes, he says, Hitler and Darwin were very similar. You see, Darwin used the word selection as did Hitler.

1:20.0

Tomorrow in selection, I thought yes, so did cabries as well, but it doesn't necessarily...

1:26.0

This co-co seems fascistic!

1:31.0

Today, we're looking at a scientist whose works include the use of flying machines in war, social environment and modern progress, land nationalisation, is mass habitable and the revolt of democracy.

1:41.0

A polymath is remembered for the one thing above all else, though, being the co-author with Charles Darwin of the theory of evolution by natural selection,

1:48.0

where I'm using the theory in the technical sense here, which means fact.

1:53.0

No, you tricksy scientist, you're semantic games. Anyway.

1:58.0

You did it out of the way as soon as you did it. With the 100th anniversary of his death this year, we look at the work of Alfred Russell Wallace, and to guide us through the work of this complex mind,

2:07.0

we are joined by three brains, howls, as is traditional in bone skin and other tissue.

2:12.0

Yes, probably the UK's finest geneticist, in many ways the Wallace, to Richard Dawkins' grommet, is Professor Steve Jones.

2:20.0

Smashing helix, grommet.

2:25.0

Few comedians combine jokes on Babylonian gardening, the South Sea bubble and the Marxist writings of Franz Fanon, and this man doesn't either.

2:33.0

It's almost impossible to do, that's why. But a few people also do actually manage to facially resemble a Victorian Viking going to a fancy dress party as one of the village people with the aplomb of this man.

2:44.0

He says he doesn't know much about science, but he does watch octanauts, so we're in safe hands with Tony Law.

2:49.0

Final scientist is Professor of Evolutionary Genetics at Suriniti College Dublin, where she works on the origin and evolution of New Jeans and Jean-Los.

2:56.0

She said that she was forced to study geography at school rather than physics, which means she knows where everything is.

3:02.0

But not how fast it's travelling.

3:05.0

Whoever it was, who laughed at that, put your hand up.

3:08.0

I'll buy you a drink, you're a physicist. It's even like Lysit, and this is our panel.

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