One of the things that is key is central to the feeling of understanding and intimacy

and connection with somebody is that you can look at each other in the face, look in each other's eyes.

Dogs will do this with us. Dogs look us in the faces.

From the TED Audio Collective, this is Design Matters with Debbie Milman.

For 18 years, Debbie Milman has been talking with designers and other creative people about what they do,

how they got to be who they are and what they're thinking about and working on.

On this episode, Alexandra Horowitz tells us about her study of dogs and why we humans have trouble understanding them.

It's very hard for humans to imagine that animals are thinking if they're not thinking in words or pictures.

Hi, I'm Francis Roy and I'm Ann Morris.

And we are the hosts of a new TED podcast called Fixable.

We've helped leaders at some of the world's most competitive companies solve all kinds of problems.

On our show, we'll pull back the curtain and give you the type of honest, unfiltered advice we usually reserve for top executives.

Maybe you have a coworker with boundary issues or you want to know how to inspire and motivate your team.

No problem is too big or too small.

Give us a call and we'll help you solve the problems you're stuck on.

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We feed them. We go on long walks with them.

We groom them and rub their bellies.

We even share our beds with them.

But do we really know who they are?

Yes, they're dogs.

But do we know what's going on between those two floppy ears?

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