Alex Stamos on Leaving Facebook and Zuckerberg's Reign
Offline with Jon Favreau
Crooked Media
4.7 • 2.3K Ratings
🗓️ 9 January 2022
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
This week on Offline, Jon is joined by Alex Stamos, Facebook’s former Chief Security Officer. As Jon’s first guest who has worked at a social media company, Alex gives us a first-hand look at Facebook’s internal politics, delivering insight on Russian hackers and the Haugen papers He also makes the case that it’s time for Mark Zuckerberg to step down.
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| 0:00.0 | Was there a moment where you said to yourself, |
| 0:02.4 | like, I think I have to leave. |
| 0:04.2 | This is, I've butted heads enough here and I gotta go. |
| 0:06.9 | Yeah, I mean, in 2018, that's what happened. |
| 0:09.7 | Facebook says place that like, |
| 0:11.5 | if you go and you're like a lower down employee, |
| 0:14.2 | your new employee, it's like Care Bear land, right? |
| 0:16.8 | Like, everything's wonderful and the food is free. |
| 0:19.0 | And like, the posters say thing |
| 0:20.1 | about people supporting people and stuff, right? |
| 0:22.4 | So, it's like the Care Bearers |
| 0:24.2 | for 80, 90% of the company. |
| 0:25.8 | And if you're in the top 10% of the company, |
| 0:27.3 | it's Game of Thrones. |
| 0:29.4 | I'm John Fabro. |
| 0:30.6 | Welcome to Offline. |
| 0:33.9 | Hey, everyone. |
| 0:34.6 | Happy New Year and welcome back to Offline. |
| 0:37.2 | So, I guess this week is Alex Stamos, |
| 0:39.0 | who's currently director of the Stanford Internet Observatory |
| 0:42.4 | where they do all kinds of research |
| 0:43.6 | on the negative impact of technology and disinformation. |
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