Alex Pretti's Killing and Not Letting Rage Win
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Esau McCaulley
5.0 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 29 January 2026
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
The killing of Alex Pretti by federal agents in Minneapolis has become another moment where violence, misinformation, and political certainty collide. As video evidence contradicts official narratives, Esau, Malcolm Foley, and Mike wrestle with what this death reveals about power, propaganda, and the erosion of public trust. Then the three discuss Esau's recent article for the New York Times to ask a harder question: how do Christians name injustice without being consumed by rage? What does faithful witness look like when anger feels justified but spiritually dangerous?
0:00 - Theme Song
1:10 - American Girl Doll Nostalgia
9:36 - Dark New Normal
14:45 - Justifying Violence with "Woke" Accusations
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25:53 - Why Do We Believe Things?
33:25 - Not Living with Rage
47:40 - End Credits
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everybody, welcome to the East |
| 0:09.0 | I'ma Calli podcast. |
| 0:10.2 | I'm your host, Esau McCauley. |
| 0:12.0 | Today we're joined by Malcolm Foley, |
| 0:14.3 | a regular contributor to the Eastal McCauley podcast. |
| 0:16.8 | Thank you for coming, Malcolm. |
| 0:18.1 | It's good to be here, as always. |
| 0:19.6 | You're not in your office today. |
| 0:20.8 | Is it because you're in Texas and y'all can't handle a little cold weather? |
| 0:24.0 | That's exactly what it is. There's like two or three inches of ice on the road, man. Two or three whole inches of ice. Do y'all even have sand or salt down there? No, no, that's the thing. They don't salt the roads, so it's just solid ice. |
| 0:37.8 | They don't have the roads, so it's just solid ice. |
| 0:45.0 | They don't have the resources to salt the residential road. Anyway, you can either drive or ice gate from place to place you want to go with. |
| 0:46.7 | Basically. Shout out to Texas infrastructure. I'm sorry. I know we got to start the podcast. |
| 0:51.4 | But I heard your boy, he dipped, he left the state again. |
| 0:54.7 | Well, he's what he does, man. That's just what happens. That's the, that's the sign it's going to be |
| 0:59.6 | bad. He gets out. I'm out. I'm out. We're also joined by co-host and producer, Mike. We happen |
| 1:08.7 | to have you on the podcast. He. So I'm happy to be here. |
| 1:11.1 | Okay. |
| 1:29.9 | And we have an added guest. Okay. What is your official title? Emerson Slaughter, you are the community engagement officer? Coordinator. Coordinator. We're here at Holy Post. Yeah? Because we can't get other people to come on the podcast. We just bring everybody who works here at the talk on the podcast at some point. But also she'll be playing a particular role on this episode. |
| 1:29.9 | She'll only be here for the first segment because she is our American Girl doll. |
| 1:34.7 | Is that what it's called? |
| 1:35.7 | Yeah, the American Girl Company, but they make dolls. |
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