The Michael Berry Show.

Before we talk to Alex Meaver, let me say this.

I know a lot of you are frustrated.

You have every right to beat.

You don't run your business this way.

You don't run your household this way.

You care about the difference between right and wrong, winning and losing.

Fairness, opportunity, justice.

You might be imperfect as we all are, but you strive to do right.

And when you see that that's not being done, it's frustrating.

And when nothing seems to ever get done about that,

it leaves you with the feeling that it's easier not to care.

I would urge you not to be left with that feeling.

I would urge you to stay engaged,

because if not for you, do you realize what's left?

Alex Meaver is our guest.

Alex, welcome.

Thanks for having me, Michael.

Alex De Moral.

Meaver.

There you go.

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