Like that is some strong whiskey.

Alex Jones.

Where do we start?

There is so much. Great to be here. Your studios are amazing. Thank you. Thank you. So we're pre-filming episodes right now. So you're going to be guest number two. Michael's number one, Michael Malice, only by virtue if he got here first. So I think that's a pretty good first two guests. He's a great guest. He's amazing. So we hung out a few times now.

We did Tim Poole, Timcast, which was super fun and there's a ton of memes from that. And then we went on to dinner with Michael. And the funny thing about you is that your public image and sort of the reputation people want you to have who hate you is so different than what you really are.

Like, I feel like sometimes you're such a scapegoat for people's hate. In real life, you're basically a teddy bear. Well, yeah, they take derivatives of what I've done four hours a day on air and kind of take it out of context. But that's okay. You know, it's gotten the message out even more, actually. Yeah, I mean, you've been banned on everything, but there's definitely like a Streisand.

If that people actually seek it out more. Well, that's it. But, I mean, what's really happened is they just trying to attack anything that's populist, and they can demonize me and shut me down. They can ban everybody's free speech. So that's really been their goal. Yeah, exactly. And then I feel like recently there's a huge resurgence of people who actually

want to listen to you and are maybe more open to hearing conspiracy theories. Have you seen like

the meme, Alex Jones was right, tip jar? I have seen that. Right. And I think there's a reason for

that because of everything that's happened the past two years, right? Well, that certainly happened. And, you know, I mean, again, I just know they use me as a case point example to censor everybody else. And so once they demonize me and then I get censored, people don't stand up against it. It's such a press for censorship. Yeah. I feel like recently I've been saying the only difference between a fact and a

conspiracy theory is basically six to 12 months. That's the meme and it certainly is true. Yeah. Yeah.

In fact, I've almost become redundant or, I mean, Elon Musk is the new Alex Jones. Oh, you think it's

getting old? No, but Elon Musk is the new Alex Jones. He's, he gets it. The power structure is dying

and nobody buys what they say. So everybody smarts about to jump against the establishment, which is going to be spectacular because they're going to try to suppress people and make folks go along with their narratives. It's not going to work. So you're feeling optimistic then? You think you're winning the battle against the globalists? Yeah, absolutely. I'm very, very optimistic about where humanity is right now. Yeah, I am too, actually. Like, I feel like I'm a pessimist by nature, and all the shit that happened kind of 2020 and beyond, had me thinking it was just kind of over. But now you look at kind of the tides turning. You're seeing a lot of people. I think the kids being home

for Zoom helped a lot. I think it reveals a lot of what people are being indoctrinated with.

And people are just more open to hearing like, who are you going to trust? The CDC? Who are

going to trust like the White House? I mean, I think that's it. There's a loss in trust in the power

structure and a real breaking of the social contract. So people are looking

for answers. And anybody trying to suppress people looking causes a bigger backlash.

Yeah, that's the thing, the break in the social contract. I feel like growing up, there's just

so much that you're taught and that you're really indoctrinated to believe.

It's like we're looking at now the Zoom kids getting told things. And it's like, well, you start looking at, well, what was I told? Is it really this new thing that kids are just being lied to? Or what were the things that I was lied to about as a kid? You know, what would you say are the main things people are lied to about when they're kids? And they just kind of... People are lied to about the fact that America is run by America.

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