What if earning more money in 2025 has less to do with working longer hours and more to do with becoming dangerously useful? In this conversation, Joe Saul-Sehy and OG sit down with entrepreneur Alex Hormozi to break down how skill stacking, leverage, and better decision-making can radically change your income trajectory, whether you run a business, lead a team, or clock in for a 9-to-5. Alex pulls back the curtain on what actually drives higher pay: choosing the right skills, focusing on work that compounds, and learning how to take smart risks without blowing up your life. Along the way, he tackles one of the hardest challenges Stackers face, how to pursue growth when well-meaning friends, family, or coworkers are urging you to play it safe. This isn't about hustle culture or quitting your job tomorrow. It's about building a skill set that makes you indispensable, learning how to negotiate from a position of strength, and thinking long-term while others stay stuck optimizing small things. WHAT YOU'LL TAKE AWAY: Why skill stacking beats talent when it comes to earning power How to identify high-leverage skills that pay off in any career Ways to invest in yourself that don't require an MBA or massive risk How to apply entrepreneurial thinking inside a traditional job Practical negotiation insights that actually work in the real world When giving away value helps you grow and when it backfires How to tune out discouraging advice without burning bridges Why systems and processes matter more than motivation If you're serious about earning more in 2025 but want to do it thoughtfully, sustainably, and on your own terms, this episode gives you a blueprint worth studying. Listen for the mindset shifts that compound quietly and the small changes that can unlock much bigger opportunities over time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices